Asking for my friends

[LC18]

My friends have a few questions for men looking for sugar bbies or a similar kind of relationship. Since you have always been respectful and willing to participate in my numerous threads, I thought I would ask. If this topic isn't for you, you really don't have to comment. You also don't have to answer every single question, just do those you're comfortable answering.


Where would you look for a sugar bb? Online, in person, escort/stripper turned sugar bb?

What are your expectations in terms of dates per week vs money?

Do you prefer allowances or "pay per meet" ?

What is the difference between an escort and a sugar bb if you do "pay per meet" ?

What would be your budget per month?

Would you feel like paying someone's bills every month feel too transactional?

How much would you pay for one evening a week (5 pm - 10 pm approx) ?


Do you expect your sugar bb to send you nudes and text messages when you're not seeing each other? (if you allow it)



Thank you so much in advance.

P.S: the platform is odd, it doesn’t let me type “sugar b a b y” without linking a website that I don’t even know about.

 

[rizzgod]

Where would you look for a sugar bb? on sugar sites, dating apps, instagram, in person. Id stay away from any girl who is a stripper or escort on sugar sites tbh , theres numerous reasons for this but I wont go into reasons why

What are your expectations in terms of dates per week vs money? thats up to each individual sugar daddy and sugar baby. I usually have a roster going at the same time so meetups range from 1-4 per month. I know lots of guys are the same. dont expect to be his only SB, especially if he is in high demand.

Do you prefer allowances or "pay per meet" ? Always PPM, and from my experience most girls prefer this too.

What is the difference between an escort and a sugar bb if you do "pay per meet" ? The difference is with SB's usually you are only paying for the sex, all the other stuff you do together is free of charge. theres also alot of girls on sugar sites just looking to date rich guys and do fun rich person stuff and dont expect to get paid. sb's and sd's will also usually go for an unpaid coffee or drink before setting something up to see if there is chemistry and that they look like their pics first before setting up some sort of arrangement.

What would be your budget per month? depends on the SB and SD

Would you feel like paying someone's bills every month feel too transactional? I have never paid for a girls bills every month. I think you might be hearing of outlier sugar relationships

How much would you pay for one evening a week (5 pm - 10 pm approx) ? Depends on the girl and guy. as stated previously, most sugar arrangements you are only paying for the sex. so a 1 hour meetup and a 5 hour meetup would probably be the same amount

Do you expect your sugar bb to send you nudes and text messages when you're not seeing each other? (if you allow it): I personally like keeping the texting to a minimum. nudes are fine but not expected.

Id keep in mind that theres way more sugar babies than sugar daddies. therefore the supply and demand leads to the sugar daddies having all the leverage and being pickier.
its quite different than the escort world. alot of girls who are succesful in the escorting world are not succesful in the sugar dating world, you have alot more competition from other woman and cant get away with catfishing as much.

 

[vitaminD]

If your friends gotta ask they probably aren't cut out for it.

If you are a conventionally beautiful woman (an 8 or higher), have a slender or athletic physique, and are in your 20s (ideally early 20s), the world is your oyster in the sugar dating world, you will make $$$$$$

If you are average or slightly above average in looks, you may still be able to attract a few men for short-term sugar dating. However, it's unlikely that you will be able to attract the high roller individuals, and even if you do, their interest will likely only last for a few weeks.

Theres threads on here for sugar dating:
https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/women-on-seeking.309135/
https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/mor...-up-since-school-started.345845/#post-2511898
(use the search bar theres more)

Reddit also has some subreddits on this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/?rdt=60144

also youtube.
(will likely give you more of a males persoective)

Sugar babies tend to be more "regular girls" , its closer to a relationship or a fwb than an escort is. there is probably atleast 10x the amount of girls doing sugar dating than escorts, so it is a tougher market.

 

[KidK]

+1 on everything rizzgod mentioned, that's so spot on. I'm also going to add that as a sugar bb vs escort, on average you will make way more money escorting unless you land a whale sugar daddy who is only set on you. This is unlikely unless you're a 10/10 and even then it's probably so rare and not worth trying for.

Ontop of that, the sd's really do have all the power and some guys finesse girls who were originally there for ppm to what rizzgod mentioned @ "theres also a lot of girls on sugar sites just looking to date rich guys and do fun rich person stuff and dont expect to get paid".

 

[LPC]

My friends have a few questions for men looking for sugar bbies or a similar kind of relationship. Since you have always been respectful and willing to participate in my numerous threads, I thought I would ask. If this topic isn't for you, you really don't have to comment. You also don't have to answer every single question, just do those you're comfortable answering.




I had a few sugarbabies prior to 2020 and Covid prevented me from returning to the practice, and now I am just out of the habit and not interested in the hassle of finding the right person. I had a couple lasting Sugarbabies, but had to go through a dozen ones that were quite short-term and don't have the time or energy for the inefficiency. I found them specifically through Sugarbaby websites. I was not interested in an escort who wanted to be a sugarbabe because I did not trust that they could remain relatively monogamous (i.e., I didn't care if the sugarbabe had a boyfriend and was screwing him but I didn't want one who was hooking up with several men per week.

there are no correct answers and I knew guys whose answer would be opposite to mine. But here are my answers.

I preferred a fixed amount (monthly allowance although I usually paid weekly or bi-monthly) and liked when it was tied to a particular thing (i.e., cost of rent, cost of car payments, cost of car insurance, tuition, textbooks, etc.) and was not interested in payment per meeting because this felt more like an escort type of relationship; but I was wanted the classic sugardaddy/sugarbaby relationship, which was a relationship. I usually only had time to meet once per week, occassionally twice, and we would exchange a few text per week typically. The rate varied on the quality of the woman on various factors, looks, body, how well we got along, how close she lived/accessible she was. And I usually started with a "starter" allowance and added a new thing to cover each month (e.g., first month was rent, next month was car payments and insurance etc.) for a few months and found this strategy really helped me get sugarbabes who would stick around for longer than a few weeks, and it would allow more time for us to connect as people and this is what led to longer lasting ones.

 

[LC18]

Id keep in mind that theres way more sugar babies than sugar daddies. therefore the supply and demand leads to the sugar daddies having all the leverage and being pickier.
its quite different than the escort world. alot of girls who are succesful in the escorting world are not succesful in the sugar dating world, you have alot more competition from other woman and cant get away with catfishing as much.

My friends are not escorts. Also a lot of time you have replied “it depends on the sugar daddy”, I am asking your opinion so feel free to answer based on your opinion. Thanks!

 

[LC18]

Ontop of that, the sd's really do have all the power and some guys finesse girls who were originally there for ppm to what rizzgod mentioned @ "theres also a lot of girls on sugar sites just looking to date rich guys and do fun rich person stuff and dont expect to get paid".

Yes I hear of that sometimes from my friends. Maybe I’m just wired differently because of escorting but I’m not sure I could accept hanging out like that without compensation. It doesn’t have to be a lot but just something so that I can pay for my bills eventually.

 

[LC18]

I preferred a fixed amount (monthly allowance although I usually paid weekly or bi-monthly) and liked when it was tied to a particular thing (i.e., cost of rent, cost of car payments, cost of car insurance, tuition, textbooks, etc.) and was not interested in payment per meeting because this felt more like an escort type of relationship; but I was wanted the classic sugardaddy/sugarbaby relationship, which was a relationship. I usually only had time to meet once per week, occassionally twice, and we would exchange a few text per week typically. The rate varied on the quality of the woman on various factors, looks, body, how well we got along, how close she lived/accessible she was. And I usually started with a "starter" allowance and added a new thing to cover each month (e.g., first month was rent, next month was car payments and insurance etc.) for a few months and found this strategy really helped me get sugarbabes who would stick around for longer than a few weeks, and it would allow more time for us to connect as people and this is what led to longer lasting ones.

Thank you, this was very helpful. I’ll forward this to my friends in the group chat.

How do you bring the “talk”? How do you start talking about money?

 

[rizzgod]

My friends are not escorts. Also a lot of time you have replied “it depends on the sugar daddy”, I am asking your opinion so feel free to answer based on your opinion. Thanks!

I cant really give you an answer, because I pay different girls different amounts based on what I do with them. also it varies based on how attractive they are. alot of the times I have tiered rates with them. and then again, theres girls who are just looking to date rich guys for free, theres a surprising amount of girls looking for relationships with rich guys on sites like seeking, the girls treat it like a dating app. also girls looking to use it for networking/business opportunities , or simply to just get invited on yachts, trips and parties and stuff.

I know alot of girls also expect different amounts from different guys.

 

[wintersurfer]

One thing I will add is “ppm” is escorting, an arrangement is a monthly “allowance”….

 

[LC18]

Also motive - while you’re looking for financial compensation to “pay your bills”, women who are spending time with no financial compensation at that time, they may be exposed to a group of ppl who pamper and get them items or meet other ppl where a financial compensation is an option.

That’s an interesting angle, thank you!

 

[KidK]

Yes I hear of that sometimes from my friends. Maybe I’m just wired differently because of escorting but I’m not sure I could accept hanging out like that without compensation. It doesn’t have to be a lot but just something so that I can pay for my bills eventually.

I have heard this before and most PPM/escort girls think they are wired that way initially, until they meet that attractive guy (for example: young, tall, fit, successful multi-millionaire).

Similar to how on the consumers end, escorting and sugar babies can be addicting... the lifestyle these guys live, again especially if they're attractive all around, is addicting too. Lack of compensation in favour of experiences, or just spending time with that "dream guy" becomes more and more appealing over time. More power to you if you're really impervious to that, but I find that the vast majority of girls I've met (escort vs. sugar baby vs. civilian, doesn't matter) aren't. It's the same thing as YMMV in escorting, like there's some guys that escorts will go above and beyond for and those guys don't even need to do much or pay extra b/c they're attractive (again, for example: young, tall, fit, successful multi-millionaire). All this is to say, just be careful treading down this path b/c if you're dealing with elite dudes on a sugar baby/frequent basis, you might find yourself doing things you didn't think were originally possible.

 

[KiraWest]

Hey girlie ! I've got you
This is from my experience as a sugar baby & former escort:

Where would you look for a sugar bb? Online, in person, escort/stripper turned sugar bb?
-Online on sugar sites is the most straightforward way, you both know why you are there! I suggest focusing solely on potential suitors with paid memberships. The beauty of these platforms lies in their ability to customize your search based on aspects such as income, height, and more. It's quite cool, really!
-In addition to sugar sites, exploring various online avenues like social media, dating apps, and Snapchat can offer exciting opportunities. Personally, I find Instagram to be quite valuable, especially when connecting with individuals who have genuine profiles and showcase a luxurious lifestyle. It's a delightful way to uncover potential matches who radiate affluence.
-In the realm of real-life encounters, there are also abundant opportunities to meet affluent gentlemen. Simply frequenting places where rich individuals tend to gather, such as upscale gyms, high-end restaurants, bars, clubs, and exclusive members-only establishments, can prove fruitful. Even everyday locations where you typically get approached by men can yield good results if you master the art of spotting wealth. If you'd like, I could provide you with more detailed tips and tricks on how to do so. Additionally, it's important to be approachable in order to attracts the kind of gentlemen you desire. If you have friends who also engage in sugar dating, joining them for outings with their daddies and their friends can be an excellent way to connect with affluent men.

Through personal observations, I've noticed that many girls who are involved in escorting, stripping, or even content creation on platforms like OnlyFans often encounter challenges when entering the sugar dating world. I believe this is mainly due to their mindset, which tends to lean more towards transactional relationships and catering to a higher volume of individuals. Additionally, from a daddy's perspective, they might question why they should enter into a monetary arrangement when they can simply pay an escort's rate. Interestingly, I've discovered that many daddies prefer the company of "lower volume" girls. This preference may stem from the fact that some wealthy daddies are hesitant to be seen in public with an escort, as it could potentially harm their reputation.

What are your expectations in terms of dates per week vs money?
The range of compensation in the sugar dating world is truly diverse! Unfortunately, I am restricted from sharing specific figures due to the guidelines of this platform. However, I can share that I have been fortunate to have daddies who generously provide me with substantial financial support. Additionally, I have encountered daddies who offer moderate amounts, as well as some with whom I have more casual arrangements who.I see for free. Each situation is unique and depends on various factors that contribute to the dynamics of our connection. The ones I see for free are typically men who are on the younger side, wealthy, and attractive, I see them as potential relationships, so I don't expect them to pay, also I would have sex with them for free anyways.

I have had the pleasure of being involved with daddies who, while they may not provide direct financial compensation, offer me incredible experiences that I would not otherwise have the opportunity to enjoy. These experiences include lavish trips to luxurious destinations, exhilarating private jet flights, and even the chance to witness NBA games from courtside seats. These unique encounters hold immense value to me, as they grant me the chance to indulge in experiences that I may not have been able to afford despite my own financial success.

I know some girls who have had financial success in sugar dating compared to me, the majority of individuals in this field may earn less. I have personally witnessed friends of mine who have attempted to venture into the sugar dating world, only to encounter minimal or no success at all.

Do you prefer allowances or "pay per meet" ?
I have found that initiating arrangements with a pay-per-meet (PPM) structure works well for both myself and many daddies. It seems that most prefer this approach as a starting point. Throughout my journey, I have had the pleasure of encountering both long-term and short-term daddies who have added joy to my life.

What is the difference between an escort and a sugar bb if you do "pay per meet" ?
Unlike escorting, sugar dating showcases a significant distinction in terms of vetting processes. It involves a thorough vetting process by both parties involved. Personally, I choose to engage in intimate encounters exclusively with men whom I have thoroughly vetted and met for free in person prior to any arrangements or ppm setups being made. The volume of encounters in sugar dating tends to be much lower compared to escorting, as the barrier to entry for the men I choose to engage with is significantly higher.
In the realm of sugar dating, my intimate connections are exclusively reserved for men who captivate me both physically and mentally. It's a distinct departure from escorting, where sex is had with whoever shows up at the door, who pays the donation, and went through a very easy to pass screening process.

 

[LC18]

I have heard this before and most PPM/escort girls think they are wired that way initially, until they meet that attractive guy (for example: young, tall, fit, successful multi-millionaire).

Similar to how on the consumers end, escorting and sugar babies can be addicting... the lifestyle these guys live, again especially if they're attractive all around, is addicting too. Lack of compensation in favour of experiences, or just spending time with that "dream guy" becomes more and more appealing over time. More power to you if you're really impervious to that, but I find that the vast majority of girls I've met (escort vs. sugar baby vs. civilian, doesn't matter) aren't. It's the same thing as YMMV in escorting, like there's some guys that escorts will go above and beyond for and those guys don't even need to do much or pay extra b/c they're attractive (again, for example: young, tall, fit, successful multi-millionaire). All this is to say, just be careful treading down this path b/c if you're dealing with elite dudes on a sugar baby/frequent basis, you might find yourself doing things you didn't think were originally possible.

Thank you, I’ll send this to my friends.

 

[LC18]

Hey girlie ! I've got you
This is from my experience as a sugar baby & former escort:

Where would you look for a sugar bb? Online, in person, escort/stripper turned sugar bb?
-Online on sugar sites is the most straightforward way, you both know why you are there! I suggest focusing solely on potential suitors with paid memberships. The beauty of these platforms lies in their ability to customize your search based on aspects such as income, height, and more. It's quite cool, really!
-In addition to sugar sites, exploring various online avenues like social media, dating apps, and Snapchat can offer exciting opportunities. Personally, I find Instagram to be quite valuable, especially when connecting with individuals who have genuine profiles and showcase a luxurious lifestyle. It's a delightful way to uncover potential matches who radiate affluence.
-In the realm of real-life encounters, there are also abundant opportunities to meet affluent gentlemen. Simply frequenting places where rich individuals tend to gather, such as upscale gyms, high-end restaurants, bars, clubs, and exclusive members-only establishments, can prove fruitful. Even everyday locations where you typically get approached by men can yield good results if you master the art of spotting wealth. If you'd like, I could provide you with more detailed tips and tricks on how to do so. Additionally, it's important to be approachable in order to attracts the kind of gentlemen you desire. If you have friends who also engage in sugar dating, joining them for outings with their daddies and their friends can be an excellent way to connect with affluent men.

Through personal observations, I've noticed that many girls who are involved in escorting, stripping, or even content creation on platforms like OnlyFans often encounter challenges when entering the sugar dating world. I believe this is mainly due to their mindset, which tends to lean more towards transactional relationships and catering to a higher volume of individuals. Additionally, from a daddy's perspective, they might question why they should enter into a monetary arrangement when they can simply pay an escort's rate. Interestingly, I've discovered that many daddies prefer the company of "lower volume" girls. This preference may stem from the fact that some wealthy daddies are hesitant to be seen in public with an escort, as it could potentially harm their reputation.

What are your expectations in terms of dates per week vs money?
The range of compensation in the sugar dating world is truly diverse! Unfortunately, I am restricted from sharing specific figures due to the guidelines of this platform. However, I can share that I have been fortunate to have daddies who generously provide me with substantial financial support. Additionally, I have encountered daddies who offer moderate amounts, as well as some with whom I have more casual arrangements who.I see for free. Each situation is unique and depends on various factors that contribute to the dynamics of our connection. The ones I see for free are typically men who are on the younger side, wealthy, and attractive, I see them as potential relationships, so I don't expect them to pay, also I would have sex with them for free anyways.

I have had the pleasure of being involved with daddies who, while they may not provide direct financial compensation, offer me incredible experiences that I would not otherwise have the opportunity to enjoy. These experiences include lavish trips to luxurious destinations, exhilarating private jet flights, and even the chance to witness NBA games from courtside seats. These unique encounters hold immense value to me, as they grant me the chance to indulge in experiences that I may not have been able to afford despite my own financial success.

I know some girls who have had financial success in sugar dating compared to me, the majority of individuals in this field may earn less. I have personally witnessed friends of mine who have attempted to venture into the sugar dating world, only to encounter minimal or no success at all.

Do you prefer allowances or "pay per meet" ?
I have found that initiating arrangements with a pay-per-meet (PPM) structure works well for both myself and many daddies. It seems that most prefer this approach as a starting point. Throughout my journey, I have had the pleasure of encountering both long-term and short-term daddies who have added joy to my life.

What is the difference between an escort and a sugar bb if you do "pay per meet" ?
Unlike escorting, sugar dating showcases a significant distinction in terms of vetting processes. It involves a thorough vetting process by both parties involved. Personally, I choose to engage in intimate encounters exclusively with men whom I have thoroughly vetted and met for free in person prior to any arrangements or ppm setups being made. The volume of encounters in sugar dating tends to be much lower compared to escorting, as the barrier to entry for the men I choose to engage with is significantly higher.
In the realm of sugar dating, my intimate connections are exclusively reserved for men who captivate me both physically and mentally. It's a distinct departure from escorting, where sex is had with whoever shows up at the door, who pays the donation, and went through a very easy to pass screening process.

Thank you, I send them the link as it will be easier for them to read it themselves. There was a lot of info, wasn’t expecting it. Thanks for your time!

 

[vitaminD]

I have heard this before and most PPM/escort girls think they are wired that way initially, until they meet that attractive guy (for example: young, tall, fit, successful multi-millionaire).

It makes sense.

Attractive woman are common. Men who are attractive and wealthy are rare.
If you took 1000 random girls, probably 200-500 of them would be considered attractive.
If you took 1000 random guys, probably 1 of them is both attractive and rich.

just supply and demand.

 

[KidK]

It makes sense.

Attractive woman are common. Men who are attractive and wealthy are rare.
If you took 1000 random girls, probably 200-500 of them would be considered attractive.
If you took 1000 random guys, probably 1 of them is both attractive and rich.

just supply and demand.

Yup and that's why the "YMMVness" (for lack of a better term 🤣), regardless of it being an escort vs. sugar baby vs. civilian is similar. As in the vast majority of girls (again, not all), will break the rules for you lol

 

[OF_manager]

It makes sense.

Attractive woman are common. Men who are attractive and wealthy are rare.
If you took 1000 random girls, probably 200-500 of them would be considered attractive.
If you took 1000 random guys, probably 1 of them is both attractive and rich.

just supply and demand.

https://igotstandardsbro.com/

 

[OF_manager]

I think a point to consider is your definition of compensation vs theirs. These women may feel compensated for their time when doing these activities. Who knows.
Also motive - while you’re looking for financial compensation to “pay your bills”, women who are spending time with no financial compensation at that time, they may be exposed to a group of ppl who pamper and get them items or meet other ppl where a financial compensation is an option.

getting the opportunity to be mentored by, and network with men worth millions of dollars definitely can be more valuable than getting payed for some sex if you play your cards right

 

[LC18]

One of them asked: “do you ever buy a drink/food to a good looking stranger when you’re out? if so is it more at lunch, dinner or bar?”