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shawn

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I live in Cali, and was thinking of purchasing a house/condo in Vancouver. I am spoiled here because everybody has A/C here and I cannot survive warm summers without it.

My question is do you have to buy a portable room unit or can you have a central air conditioner installed without breaking any noise laws. TIA
 

Pat 1

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A house you usually can install central air; condos are more difficult; they all have their own rules. Useally a room a/c unit is not a problem becuase they don't affect external appearance but I don't think they are all that effective.
 

shawn

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So if I bought a house instead of a condo I could have central a/c even though the unit makes a slight hum? Someone told me that could be considered noise pollution, but then again this was 5 yrs ago.


Pat 1 said:
A house you usually can install central air; condos are more difficult; they all have their own rules. Useally a room a/c unit is not a problem becuase they don't affect external appearance but I don't think they are all that effective.
 

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Whatever you buy, I would avoid buying a place facing directly west and on the top floor if its a condo. A condo is very strict in its rules. I agree with them, though, AC sticking out and portable vacumn tubes look kind of ghetto.

You might try awnings and vertical windows shades if you buy a house and dont want to deal with the high AC bills.
 

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shawn said:
So if I bought a house instead of a condo I could have central a/c even though the unit makes a slight hum? Someone told me that could be considered noise pollution, but then again this was 5 yrs ago.
There's usually no problem with installing central a/c for a house so long as you comply with the bylaws.

Biggest issue isn't the bylaws but potential complaints from your neighbours if you don't consider its impact on them before installing it. In other words, be considerate of your neighbours and you shouldn't have any problems. If you locate it against your house and immediately under the neighbour's bedroom window, you'll likely get some complaints. Especially if your neighbours have older houses (which have minimal or no insulation and single pane windows) or like to sleep with their windows open.

The trick is locating the central a/c where it will result in the least noise intrusion on the neighbours, and buying one with a low sone (noise level) rating. This may mean incurring additional expense since the unit will be more expensive and the location may require longer than normal refrigerant and return lines from the compressor to the heat exchanger. Stay away from the cheap and noisy units and think of your neighbours when locating it and you should be fine!
 

georgebushmoron

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I used to live in a condo near Metrotown in Burnaby. It was very high up and had glass all around from ceiling to floor. It faced south. When the sun rose in the east I would get the morning sunshine. When it was the afternoon, I'd see the sun in the sky. When it was 9 or 10pm, I'd see the dusk rays and the sun on the horizon because I was that high up.

Being in it in the summer was like being in a greenhouse perched high up in the sky so that it would be exposed to the sun even more. Though the sun would be gone by 10pm the condo remained hot until 1am because it was heated all day. To make matters worst, the inside of the condo had to be painted white or off-white (no other colors allowed), which reflected the light and absorbed none of the heat. It made it impossible to nap in the afternoon or sleep in late in the morning. The cement balcony would be so hot in the day that I could not walk on it barefoot. The vinyl vertical blinds would literally stretch and melt off their rails. The metal frame surrounding the windows was so hot to the touch from the inside that scotch tape would melt off of it in minutes. In the summers I would get no sleep from the heat, and eventually developed all kinds of health problems and fever from the persistent heat and lack of sleep. I couldn't turn on the stove because it would just add to the heat. The contents in my fridge would spoil overnight because the fridge would not work very well in the intense heat. I couldn't do laundry insuite because of the added heat. My computers would shut down in the daytime in the den because they overheated. A $2000 portable air conditioner would not work very well because the heat inside was so intense. Only the first 15 feet near the air conditioner did you feel any effect. Eventually I taped black plastic bags from ceiling to floor covering the windows (on the inside) to block out the sun. That got me some relief, but I had to get special heat-resistant tape to make sure it would keep sticking to the window frame.

For the light of me I don't understand why strata councils are filled with such fucking idiots that they would not allow air conditioning units to be attached externally, which are the only effective ones. Nor do they allow a severely dark or reflective film on the windows to block out the sun's rays. Those assholes only think about property values and their wallets, never about what it's like to be tortured in a greenhouse in the sky.

When I was selling it in early June a year ago I would tell would-be buyers about the lovely view being so high up, and how glorious the sun shine was in the mornings and how lovely it was to see the sun at dusk on the horizon. I remarked how great it was that the windows were so big, that you really felt you were living in the city without being down deep in it. The elevator ride up was like a ride to heaven in the skies! I sold that fucking thing in 10 days with a healthy profit to boot, and just in time for the new owner to enjoy being cooked alive.
 

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georgebushmoron said:
I used to live in a condo near Metrotown in Burnaby. It was very high up and had glass all around from ceiling to floor. It faced south. When the sun rose in the east I would get the morning sunshine. When it was the afternoon, I'd see the sun in the sky. When it was 9 or 10pm, I'd see the dusk rays and the sun on the horizon because I was that high up.

Being in it in the summer was like being in a greenhouse perched high up in the sky so that it would be exposed to the sun even more. Though the sun would be gone by 10pm the condo remained hot until 1am because it was heated all day. To make matters worst, the inside of the condo had to be painted white or off-white (no other colors allowed), which reflected the light and absorbed none of the heat. It made it impossible to nap in the afternoon or sleep in late in the morning. The cement balcony would be so hot in the day that I could not walk on it barefoot. The vinyl vertical blinds would literally stretch and melt off their rails. The metal frame surrounding the windows was so hot to the touch from the inside that scotch tape would melt off of it in minutes. In the summers I would get no sleep from the heat, and eventually developed all kinds of health problems and fever from the persistent heat and lack of sleep. I couldn't turn on the stove because it would just add to the heat. The contents in my fridge would spoil overnight because the fridge would not work very well in the intense heat. I couldn't do laundry insuite because of the added heat. My computers would shut down in the daytime in the den because they overheated. A $2000 portable air conditioner would not work very well because the heat inside was so intense. Only the first 15 feet near the air conditioner did you feel any effect. Eventually I taped black plastic bags from ceiling to floor covering the windows (on the inside) to block out the sun. That got me some relief, but I had to get special heat-resistant tape to make sure it would keep sticking to the window frame.

For the light of me I don't understand why strata councils are filled with such fucking idiots that they would not allow air conditioning units to be attached externally, which are the only effective ones. Nor do they allow a severely dark or reflective film on the windows to block out the sun's rays. Those assholes only think about property values and their wallets, never about what it's like to be tortured in a greenhouse in the sky.

When I was selling it in early June a year ago I would tell would-be buyers about the lovely view being so high up, and how glorious the sun shine was in the mornings and how lovely it was to see the sun at dusk on the horizon. I remarked how great it was that the windows were so big, that you really felt you were living in the city without being down deep in it. The elevator ride up was like a ride to heaven in the skies! I sold that fucking thing in 10 days with a healthy profit to boot, and just in time for the new owner to enjoy being cooked alive.

Sounds totally brutal, I used to live in a Condo myself and know what it feels like to live in a sauna for 2 to 3 months. After the first summer I bought myself a AC unit, put it on the bottom of the patio door and just plywood to block out the hole ( painted of course).

My condo faced North, I have no idea how people who live in rooms facing west directly without AC can take it. Its almost like being in a car watching the sun set.
 

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Penhold said:
think of your neighbours
I had central air installed this past weekend and all I have to say is fuck my neighbors. When picking the unit I focused on its performance, efficiency, warranty....basicly what makes me happy. As it turns out those features also provide for a more quiet condenser unit. Its located on the utility side of the house which happens to mirror that of the neighbor so should keep everyone happy.

So far I'm right happy with it....go from my AC house to my AC truck to my AC office and back....no more sticky sweaty nuts for this cowboy :cool:
 
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