Let's Talk about Quality

[Sir_Nifty]

Hey Everyone,

I have been confused lately, and I wonder if some of you long term guys and girls can set me straight. Why do most if not all charge "standard pricing" when the standards are extremely varied. First off I love the hobby, but am tired of feeling ripped off.

When you go see a SP are you paying for "an hour" or are you paying for a "one time as quick as they can get you off" shot on goal. Over the past few weeks I have seen three different girls, all with "standard pricing" and I was in and out in under 25 minutes with all three, it is like a horse race, but they feel they should and do charge standard rates. YES, I know it's up to me to review and
I have the right of refusal, and I have the ability to never go back.

OK let's get into this, because I think it needs to be said. First off yes I understand a girl can ask the fees that she desires, it's her business. BUT is it? Again, do you pay for the hour or one quick shot. I recently asked a young lady (no names please) at Legends if she is ok with MSOG. She said NO I am not allowed to do that, I got in trouble for that. This was after about 14 minutes. OK I agreed to pay the standard rate, but I don't believe I got my money's worth. I feel like a "mark" let's get em in, get em off, and get em out, and charge the same as the true
elite girls do.

There is NO way that we should pay these girls the same as I would pay Lilith, or Gabrielle, or Kendra etc. The difference in quality and performance is mind boggling. BUT the industry seems to allow for the same rates. Am I the only one who feels this way?

Nifty

 

[namssa]

Local market conditions drive the pricing of SPs for standard srvices & time frames. A careful investigation of the posted reviews should provide a guide as to what should be going on with a specific SP. When I meet a new SP, regardless of where, I always ask if we can spend the full time booked together & have never been pushed out the door early when I've chosen to stay. I also give her an idea of how I would like to fill the time left (if any) after completing the maiin course contracted.

Generally such time is not spent on overtly sexual activities since I don't want to start something that cannot be finished. Perhaps a massage for her or a bit of cuddling & conversation.

It is their business. Period. Do your research. Ask questions before deciding to stay. Ask all the questions you want answered before you pay the donation. Leave if you do not like the answers. Don't complain about not getting something that was not actually agreed to before you started.

PeaceGuy pretty much hit the nail on the head.

The market determines what the girl charges and what services she provides. Read the reviews, make contact (In person, phone, email, PM, whatever) with the desired girl and ask whatever you like as long as you are polite and respectful to her. Tell the girl what you want and see if she is interested in taking care of you. Ask specific questions and the answers and how she answers will tell you a lot about the girl. If the girl and you do not come to an agreement of services and donation, then move onto the next girl.

Make certain that she will provide whatever it is you are looking for and ask questions and make your deal BEFORE handing over any $$. If you do you due diligence, you will have a good time and leave a happy guy. If you don't take the time and make the effort before, you get whatever you get, and don't forget to post a review.

 

[namssa]

Sir_Nifty, I couldn't agree with you more. The dollar value out there sucks.
A couple of years ago it was a lot better. There were a lot of fantastic girls
that gave great service at reasonable prices.
Most of the sessions I've had lately are probably worth about 100 and that's
being generous.

There are still a lot of girls out there that can give a great deal for a very reasonable price. You just have to do your research and put some effort into finding what you want. I do a shitload of research and have found some girls that will knock your socks off for $$ - $$.5 for GFE.

A lot of times the reason that a guy has a crappy session is because he has not researched and taken the time to get to know the girl before a session. A good part of a session is having a good rapport with the girl. If you have a crap session, it is more likely the guys fault than the girl.

Research and building a rapport are very important to gettting a quality session.

Make sure you do your homework.

 

[gabrielle]

hold up....

i just want to say thanks for the props here. i play and work hard, as does lil and kendra, and i really appreciate it when we're being appreciated.

thanks.

kisses,
gabrielle

 

[larry40]

The best advice I have seen on this subject is to be clear in your discussion up frount. If you are buying time state the time the time you both agree it will end. If its an untill I cum session you may want to tell her what your usual arrival time is. Talk about the expected service and your expectations, if you want GFE or PSE spell out what that means to you. Tell her if you are not into anal or if that is something you want on the menu. I often see a smile of relief when I say no anal, she doesnt have to worry about defending against unwanted advances on her ass. So when she says what do you want be prepared to tell her all your expectations. I know it takes some of the romance out of the session but if you want romance get a girl friend.

 

[twag1982]

Really the $$ is about the service not the time. If you get awesome service then you are getting your money's worth. If you are with someone who is trying to move you through the room in under 15 minutes obviously the service is not there. The suprise to me is that these girls are still making money. Crappy service to me means no repeat business. (ginger @ Legends should understand that)

 

[gumbyman6900]

When I book some time with an SP... I expect the time that I booked to be my escape from reality. I pay her to make my fantasies come true... Some days, I just want to get down, other days I want to have conversation and take things nice and easy. I have actually paid for sessions where I just lay there naked and we never actually did much. Not because she wouldn't but because that was not what I wanted that day.

A quality SP, in my mind, is one that can accommodate all of these scenarios. Sure, the looks often plays a part... but attitude, skill at services I desire and thoughtfulness of the provider is the thing that keeps me coming back.

Just my thoughts on it.

And yes, for those who read my other posts, I have an SP that I see very often for this exact reason. Quality is paramount to me.

 

[Juicer]

Over the past few weeks I have seen three different girls, all with "standard pricing" and I was in and out in under 25 minutes with all three, it is like a horse race, but they feel they should and do charge standard rates.

I think the best thing to do is to call out these girls in this forum. If you have received service that was WAY less than what you paid for make sure you indicate it on the forum and in your reviews.

I for one if I read a review stating that whomever was only in a session for 25 minutes when the pricing was standard, I WILL NOT spend my money with that girl no matter how hot she looks in her pics. If by chance it was a one off, and other reviews were showing so..I would then reconsider.

I think that the industry has changed this way because we allow it.

Even in your review you posted I have seen three different girls, however you did not mention names. Why have a review board if we are shy to review bad behaviors?

 

[HB40]

I have actually paid for sessions where I just lay there naked and we never actually did much. Not because she wouldn't but because that was not what I wanted that day.

Hey buddy

Could you let me know when you are planning a session like that?
I would like to book the session following, I have days when I like a girl with pent up sexual frustration.
We could be a team, you warm em up and I'll put em to bed.


Sorry about your luck Nifty....you haven't been picking the girls yourself have you?

 

[69guy]

i think attitude has a lot to do with service. it seems like a lot of the newer girls are in the business to make quick cash and get out.

it is so hard to find a girl that actually enjoys what she has chosen to do. i think that Kendra, Gabby, and Lilith are definitely top notch in e-town. i have stayed with all 3 and i have never had a bad session with any of them. they all have awesome attitudes and it shows. they aren't the only 3 though. Paige and Josie are 2 more girls that have great attitudes as well.

i have had my fair share of bad sessions. and have actually had some with some girls that were well reviewed and were supposedly at the high end of SP's.

with me attitude plays a huge part. so i guess thats why i only see the girls i do.

 

[HBM1]

i think attitude has a lot to do with service. it seems like a lot of the newer girls are in the business to make quick cash and get out.

it is so hard to find a girl that actually enjoys what she has chosen to do. i think that Kendra, Gabby, and Lilith are definitely top notch in e-town. i have stayed with all 3 and i have never had a bad session with any of them. they all have awesome attitudes and it shows. they aren't the only 3 though. Paige and Josie are 2 more girls that have great attitudes as well.

i have had my fair share of bad sessions. and have actually had some with some girls that were well reviewed and were supposedly at the high end of SP's.

with me attitude plays a huge part. so i guess thats why i only see the girls i do.

I haven't met many of the girls, but I'd also suggest that Paige is standing at the top of the mountain beside the aforementioned ladies. I haven't met Josie though, so I can't comment.

 

[Markl]

When I book some time with an SP... I expect the time that I booked to be my escape from reality. I pay her to make my fantasies come true... Some days, I just want to get down, other days I want to have conversation and take things nice and easy. I have actually paid for sessions where I just lay there naked and we never actually did much. Not because she wouldn't but because that was not what I wanted that day.

A quality SP, in my mind, is one that can accommodate all of these scenarios. Sure, the looks often plays a part... but attitude, skill at services I desire and thoughtfulness of the provider is the thing that keeps me coming back.

Just my thoughts on it.

And yes, for those who read my other posts, I have an SP that I see very often for this exact reason. Quality is paramount to me.

Sometimes that is all you want.
Sometimes I want sex, sometimes I just want to feel close to someone if I am stressed out. Sometimes both.

If I was going to go for pure sex, I'd probably go see Kendra or Paige, but as yet haven't.

I like to see someone who thinks like I do, someone compatible, has the same interests.

Gumby, I have had a lot of similar sessions.

 

[colossus]

Sometimes that is all you want.
Sometimes I want sex, sometimes I just want to feel close to someone if I am stressed out. Sometimes both.

If I was going to go for pure sex, I'd probably go see Kendra or Paige, but as yet haven't.

I like to see someone who thinks like I do, someone compatible, has the same interests.

Gumby, I have had a lot of similar sessions.

wow! Markl you went an ENTIRE post without the mention of Cherry? - maybe there's hope for you yet........

 

[Juicer]

wow! Markl you went an entire post without the mention of cherry? - maybe there's hope for you yet........

hahaha....

 

[funnyfunguy]

This belongs in the General discussion section.