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Why do men see low-priced girls?

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Well said...

The only time I have a problem with that is if you call yourself a whore/hooker/what have you, then get offended if a guy calls you that.

Same with black people who calls themselves niggers/niggas. But if anyone of a different race says it(especially caucasians) it's offensive and racist. I think it's a stupid word period, but that's me.

T - you have to keep in mind I'm a young guy. Most of the women with the exception of Katlyn and maybe Isabelle are 30+. Not women most younger guys would choose unless they have a cougar fetish or something. I accept the fact I probably represent the vast minority in terms of age in relation to a lot of other guys.

VV - not pretentious? Are you kidding me? Some of the things she says sometimes on here really make me wonder. I've never seen someone with so much contempt for the very people who afford her the 'grand' life she lives.
I know I'm going to take a lot of flack for saying that, but hey- that's how I feel. Even if a lot of what she says is in jest, it doesn't come across that way. I certainly don't get the impression she's "down to earth".
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I didn't research this a whole lot, so I just picked up some definitions that were easy/convenient to find. I'm sure there will be others that do a better job than I did finding better.

Almost any definition you find for "prostitute", "hooker" (which is typically equated to "prostitute" by definition), or "whore" connotates that the person described is "unscrupulous", "debased" in character, "corrupt", etc. For the most part, terms like "escort" do not possess negative connotations in its definitions. Below I've cut and pasted a few of the negative ones:

Merriam Webster Dictionary:

Whore:

2 entries found.

1. 1whore (noun)
2. 2whore (verb)

Main Entry: 1whore Function: noun Etymology: Middle English hore, from Old English hōre; akin to Old Norse hōra whore, hōrr adulterer, Latin carus dear — more at charity Date: before 12th century

1: a woman who engages in sexual acts for money : prostitute ; also : a promiscuous or immoral woman 2: a male who engages in sexual acts for money3: a venal or unscrupulous person

Prostitute (noun):

3 entries found.

1. 1prostitute (transitive verb)
2. 2prostitute (adjective)
3. 3prostitute (noun)

Main Entry: 3prostitute Function: noun Date: 1613
1 a: a woman who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse especially for money : whore b: a male who engages in sexual and especially homosexual practices for money2: a person (as a writer or painter) who deliberately debases his or her talents (as for money)

Prostitute (adjective):

3 entries found.

1. 1prostitute (transitive verb)
2. 2prostitute (adjective)
3. 3prostitute (noun)

Main Entry: 2prostitute Function: adjective Date: 1563
: devoted to corrupt purposes : prostituted
But did you look at the dates of those definitions? I'm not sure that you can compare those terms to modern day definitions. If you are going to, then you would also have to use said periodical definitions for, "Escort". If the word was defined in terms of what it is today, then you would see the same church-based moralistic definitions.
 

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No, I didn't look at the dates...as I said I didn't research it a lot. However, I'd still argue that most people in our society that use the term "whore" or "hooker" most of the time in everyday usage either explicitly or implicitly attempt to convey a negative connotation...irrespective of when the dates of these definitions were.

I'd say its a rare occurence when they're not.
Such a shame. I think, "Whore" is such a sexy word :(
 

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I agree... not only can they not afford the 300 bucks sometimes but at any price is not a guarantee of a good date... sometimes actually probably quite often a girl just isn't feeling the guy and that mood usually transfers to the guy pretty easily.... making for an uneasy and in the guy's mind unappreciated transaction... I think guys usually take the stance "better to make a $.5 mistake than a $$$ mistake..
 

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I personaly like to stay away from the cheapies and CL..
I've had a few bad run ins with any of the low ball girls.
For me Its not about the money, I don't mind spending $$$ on a gal that
can provide top notch service, But of course I'm not going to complan about
$.5 either:rolleyes:

When you break it down as to why guys seek out the less expensive girls( I won't call them all cheap)
I feel its all about the bang, The LG takes over and theres not much you
can do about it.

For me I'll stick to the higher end, just better odds IMO:)
and the girls aren't as shifty as the $.5 ones
If I get a bad session, I Just don't go back.:rolleyes:
 
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T - you have to keep in mind I'm a young guy. Most of the women with the exception of Katlyn and maybe Isabelle are 30+.
Ouch. I guess that's true. Being 32 (my real age) your post was a reminder that I'm getting into courgar country now too.

I usually prefer young girls and guys for sport fucking but prefer 30+ lovers for experience and conversation. My girlfriend/lover is 22, hot and super smart, mature and together. So rare to find. Usually I find women that age kind of annoying...with that in mind, I guess if I was a paying pooner I would look at the young ones for a 1 time shag and mature ones for regular/ongoing companionship...
...even as I say that though I get images of Nina, Sandi, Kristy and VV fucking the brains out of clients...maybe I have a point, maybe I'm just bragging again :D

VV - not pretentious? Are you kidding me?
Just my opinion based on spending a lot of time in person with her and seeing her with a few different clients. Nope, in person I don't think she's pretentious.
 

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Just my opinion based on spending a lot of time in person with her and seeing her with a few different clients. Nope, in person I don't think she's pretentious.
Yah, and at $400/hr I could be a mighty good actor too. On the boards here - a totally different story imo.
 
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Yah, and at $400/hr I could be a mighty good actor too. On the boards here - a totally different story imo.
I don't know how you expect anyone to pay attention to what you write with that mesmurizing pic in your signature. Fuck that's hot.:p
 

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Yah, and at $400/hr I could be a mighty good actor too. On the boards here - a totally different story imo.
I've had several sessions with VV as well has hung out with her, along with a few other of the ladies, at Sandi Laine's famous parties. It would be difficult to keep up any pretense with me based on all the times I've met her. She's always been the same down-to-earth woman every time I've met her. She is very much like her board persona, only she doesn't bite in person.
 

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Well, Katlyn, Miss bijou answers your question! For a pooning student, it's not just the $3 browns but we've all read bad reviews...so it's 'easier' to live w/ a crappy $1.5 experience than $3 bones, ouch...

that's why I envy the veterans like SS, valium, pantherdash, Quarter Miler, these guys spend the big bucks b/c they make the big bucks!!! ;)

Role Models here? HAHHAHAAHA
QM'r takes a bow. :D

No I don't make the big bucks, it's more like the other poster said
on how to squeeze the entertainment dollar (While squeezing the
SP.) :)

I fall into that category of more bang for the buck at a better price.
Blowing a wad of three bills or more and possibly getting a lame session
is no different than getting a lame session at a buck and a half.

Except for the cash you layed out. :cool:

I really hate the comparison of cars and gals but it's
the same in this regard. You can buy an expensive model or a
cheap model. Either one can turn out to be a lemon.
They're both lemons at the end of the day but one of 'em cost
you more!

The biggest reason though why I see the Asian gals is because that's
where I started my pooning hobby as I have an undieing love for
Asian women. Most of them just happen to fall into the lower price
bracket.




..................QM'r
 
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QM'r takes a bow. :D

No I don't make the big bucks, it's more like the other poster said
on how to squeeze the entertainment dollar (While squeezing the
SP.) :)

I fall into that category of more bang for the buck at a better price.
Blowing a wad of three bills or more and possibly getting a lame session
is no different than getting a lame session at a buck and a half.

Except for the cash you layed out. :cool:

I really hate the comparison of cars and gals but it's
the same in this regard. You can buy an expensive model or a
cheap model. Either one can turn out to be a lemon.
They're both lemons at the end of the day but one of 'em cost
you more!

The biggest reason though why I see the Asian gals is because that's
where I started my pooning hobby as I have an undieing love for
Asian women. Most of them just happen to fall into the lower price
bracket.




..................QM'r

I'm with you quarter, But I hate the cl B&S scheme's and the phoney pics thay post.
I see so many hot Asian Ladies DT van and I always say to myself....is there an asian agency or whatever that has beaties like those on robson????
 

Quarter Mile'r

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An all to common point you make sitonmyface and yes, quite true.

When I go out to see these gals I just think of the fake pics as
their way of advertising a "place".
No way in hell do I ever expect to see a gal there that looks like
their 'advertising" ploy.

It's not even a crap shoot in that department as far as I'm concerned.
It's just reality. But, there are a few that post real pics, not many
but a few.

Soooooo, when I go and don't see something I'm interested in,
I move on to the next place without even giving a second thought
to B&S and all that noise. Same as going shopping.

Don't see something I like, I try the next store. :cool:
Believe me though, on a few occasions I've stayed and regretted
it. Well.......you know the rest of the story. Ain't going back! :D




..................QM'r
 

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Motivators

Great topic and the responses seem to leave little to add. Why do we do it?For every individual the motivatiors and drives probably include something of everything that has been posted. The adventure. The novelty. The intimacy without consequence (seemingly). The chance to unload - verbally and physically!! The temporary distraction. .... How these possibilities are valued in $$'s depends on the individual. Maybe there has to be a sense of real sacrifice/potential risk expressed in dollars. Consider the case of Elliot Spitzer. Tens of thousands paid to receive the same kick as might be experienced by the regular guy parting with $300 when he could find the same service for half as much. Maybe our SPs are selling pardons? The more you pay, the more innocent you'll be!! Overall the answer to the original question must be found in the motivation of the client and not the motivation of the SP, which is probably less complicated. Many SPs are more skilled at relieving pain and stress than any shrink and will take less from the pocket than any course of licensed 'therapy'. I've had good and bad experiences with SPs over time, usually unrelated to what I've spent. I've tended to look at the experiences over the long haul and average out the good and the bad. I don't think I'm an overall loser in the deal and I've met and enjoyed the company of some wonderful people. I've never been inclined to negotiate the asking price. I'll take the risk, within reason, sight unseen, assuming that what is provided will be motivated, in part, by spending time in a way that would encourage my making a second visit. Sometimes I'm disappointed but the successful experiences far outweigh the negatives. There is such value to this forum in providing the opportunity to critique, which does help to 'educate' all of us.
 

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I think one reason (for seeing lower priced SPs) is that some people just aren't that picky. To reference a previous example, for some men having a pint of beer at a low priced establishment is better value than having that same beer for a higher price in a more luxurious atmosphere. The focus is on the beer instead of the overall experience. Just like the type of hotel you like to stay in. For some, it's just a place to sleep, so why pay for a 4 star hotel, but for people with more heightened senses, for whom aesthetics are integral to their pleasure, the appearance and quality in a 4 or 5 star hotel is worth the extra money. It's the same with the men who are just looking for a certain body part to "rent" so they can "get off". But for others, the atmosphere, appearance, poise, intelligence, and overall vibe from the SP is important. The higher priced SPs tend to offer a complete erotic experience and make more of a mental connection with their clients, adding to the overall experience of the discerning client. But if you just want one thing, the lower priced girls are the way to go. Why waste your money if the details don't matter?
 
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Seeing low priced girls isn't really defining it IMO. Personally and speaking for myself only. I've been fortunate to have had more than many decent sessions thanks to perb and all.

But when It comes to low priced girls, what comes to my mind are the East van SW. Those girls I personally stay away from. Just my decision. My low priced definition are CL girls versus the $250 - $300 club.
I'm sure like most guys somtimes we like variety and I really don't think money comes to mind to a certain degree. Sometimes reading a or seeing an ad might trigger something in us to see her regardless of the price. Especially if she is a regular or has been reviewed favorably on Perb per say.

When it comes to service there is alot and i mean alot of grey area involved.
One mans junk is another mans treasure they say. I really dont think there's an answer to this question.

Bottom line is that it can be budgeting ( hiding $$ if your married or having a limit in spending period) . Depends on ones income level as well.

I personally prefer the higher end girls because In my mind I feel and see they take way more better care of themselves and I feel more secure in terms of health and all. IMHO.
 
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I applaud Kathlyn for showing interest in getting inside the male mind—I hope she isn't too angry about what she's finding out...:)

I think one reason (for seeing lower priced SPs) is that some people just aren't that picky... higher priced SPs tend to offer a complete erotic experience and make more of a mental connection with their clients, adding to the overall experience of the discerning client. But if you just want one thing, the lower priced girls are the way to go. Why waste your money if the details don't matter?
Thanks for your perspective, high-end hottie; here's mine—echoing, in part, what several other pooners have articulated.

I’ve had incredibly enjoyable experiences at AMPs and NEVER a completely unenjoyable one. There’s a certain convenience to AMPs and micros when it comes to booking on short notice or no notice at all. There’s often a selection of girls right on the premises, and you get to see them before paying. They feel safe and relaxed, with a mamasan or papasan right there to protect them; and generally they're highly motivated, wanting to get no complaints (or even earn praise) to be kept on and get tips. AMPs are also, increasingly, cozily furnished and illuminated.

What makes many pooners like me preferentially seek out AMPs or micros isn’t mainly the fact that they’re cheaper, but that the SPs there are Asian; though the cost-saving is an important bonus. Even IF Asian SPs were somewhat MORE expensive than Western ones, I'd still prefer them, because—in my experience as a constantly horny Caucasian male—Asian women overwhelmingly tend to be sweeter and warmer, more appreciative, more spontaneously passionate, less mentally troubled, as well as often delightfully pretty to my eyes.

Looking back on the ruins of my love life with Western women, I can't help thinking that girls who grow up pretty-looking in the West—mired in materialism and heavily courted early on—tend to have their head full of an illusory sense of their own desirability, an exaggerated idea of what a man owes them in exchange for often surprisingly uninspired sex. And, inevitably, that kind of haughty attitude ("magic pussy syndrome") often transfers to Western SPs, though of course with many, many wonderful exceptions like no doubt yourself, high-end hottie.
 

high-end hottie

I'm not "highclasshottie"
. . . Looking back on the ruins of my love life with Western women, I can't help thinking that girls who grow up pretty-looking in the West—mired in materialism and heavily courted early on—tend to have their head full of an illusory sense of their own desirability, an exaggerated idea of what a man owes them in exchange for often surprisingly uninspired sex. And, inevitably, that kind of haughty attitude ("magic pussy syndrome") often transfers to Western SPs, though of course with many, many wonderful exceptions like no doubt yourself, high-end hottie.
Thanks tantalizeme.

I think it's a misconception that if you have a higher than average rate you have an "attitude" or think you're "god's gift to men" or something. Since looks are subjective, there is someone for everyone. I know some men find me attractive, others might think I'm just average, everyone's taste is different. I know for a fact I am not "drop dead gorgeous" and would never say that I am. I'm very self-conscious, modest and self-deprecating, while still maintaining a healthy level of self-esteem. I hate "high-maintenance" women and I don't think someone like that would last long in the business and attract much repeat clientele. What bugs me is that sometimes a client will arrive with a built-in idea that a higher priced SP is going to have an "I'm special" attitude and will go out of his way to distort things to fit his perspective. Example: In a discussion about PERB and other boards with a client, I revealed that I do a search once in awhile for my name. He scoffed and rolled his eyes, taking this to mean that I was narcissistic and only wanted to read about myself. Not at all! It's more like I just wanted to be informed and be able to thank someone for a good review or respond to anything inaccurate, etc. . . . And I hope it didn't sound like I was slagging the AMPs or lower priced MPs, my point is: There is someone for everyone and I completely understand men's desire for variety, but let's not perpetuate stereotypes, e.g., high price = haughty attitude.
 

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I think one reason (for seeing lower priced SPs) is that some people just aren't that picky. To reference a previous example, for some men having a pint of beer at a low priced establishment is better value than having that same beer for a higher price in a more luxurious atmosphere. The focus is on the beer instead of the overall experience. Just like the type of hotel you like to stay in. For some, it's just a place to sleep, so why pay for a 4 star hotel, but for people with more heightened senses, for whom aesthetics are integral to their pleasure, the appearance and quality in a 4 or 5 star hotel is worth the extra money. It's the same with the men who are just looking for a certain body part to "rent" so they can "get off". But for others, the atmosphere, appearance, poise, intelligence, and overall vibe from the SP is important. The higher priced SPs tend to offer a complete erotic experience and make more of a mental connection with their clients, adding to the overall experience of the discerning client. But if you just want one thing, the lower priced girls are the way to go. Why waste your money if the details don't matter?

On my two most recent trips to Vancouver I have been seeing one particular Asian lady who does not fit the mold of being low-priced, but rather more in line with what the higher priced Asian SP's ask.

I come away from my time feeling overly satisfied for having been in the company of someone who is able to make me feel better than I should expect to feel. She makes me believe that she also has the same feeling, though I am not so naieve to believe that she does not do the same for others.

So, my question to you is this: Why should I risk paying double the price I pay to her in just the hope that you might provide me with just as good an experience.

In poker, when I am holding 2 face cards, should I dare ask for a hit? Never.
 

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The good reviews here actually don't help that much either. So much 'fanboyism'. It doesn't help the selection process. Glowing reviews with stuff like super sexy milf or beautiful woman or hot and sexy scare me now because I've tried the lower priced well reviewed and came away unimpressed on that end, how am I going to feel better about going with the $$$ ones? I don't care about the money much, I just want to get what's good value in my opinion :)

What's even scarier are the SPs who review each other occasionally... I saw one cause a SP review put me over the top. Our ideas of sexy are completely incompatible. On the plus side, it's an easy way to filter a whole bunch out lol. :D
 
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