Why do women do outcalls?

[Markl]

Seriously, you ladies are putting your lives into a hand of a stranger.

While I know that 99% of outcalls might be respectful clients, all it takes is that 1% to end everything. Is it worth it?

Be safe, make sure you DO have a driver and he escorts you to the door and checks up often.

Just my - 0.02.

 

[trackstar]

Seriously, you ladies are putting your lives into a hand of a stranger.

While I know that 99% of outcalls might be respectful clients, all it takes is that 1% to end everything. Is it worth it?

Be safe, make sure you DO have a driver and he escorts you to the door and checks up often.

Just my - 0.02.

And remember ladies, always use a condom when having sex

 

[HeMadeMeDoIt]

Seriously, you ladies are putting your lives into a hand of a stranger.

While I know that 99% of outcalls might be respectful clients, all it takes is that 1% to end everything. Is it worth it?

Be safe, make sure you DO have a driver and he escorts you to the door and checks up often.

Just my - 0.02.

And you dont think the same ratios apply to incall ?

At least in an outcall situation they know the address they're going to but when its incall who knows who is going to show up and how are they going to behave. Short of having an armed bodyguard standing i the room during a session they're not going to be 100%safe. This is also why you're paying someone (who very often cant tie their own shoe laces unassisted) $300/hr

 

[SeekSteadyRegSP]

Why do women do outcalls?

Uhhhhhhhh, because it's leeeeeeeeeeeegal ???




PS - If I knew in advance that someone would come to my neighborhood "with a driver", I simply would not book them.


I mean, if you're showing up in order to make yourself vulnerable, for cash, at least have enough common sense to seem vulnerable. If you want to drop your driver at the supermarket down the street, fine, meet him there, but I simply don't wish to have anything to do with him.

That is akin to a working girl on the street corner with some lowly guy hovering just behind her. How much business does she think she's going to get that way?

 

[CalgaryJenn]

PS - If I knew in advance that someone would come to my neighborhood "with a driver", I simply would not book them.


I mean, if you're showing up in order to make yourself vulnerable, for cash, at least have enough common sense to seem vulnerable. If you want to drop your driver at the supermarket down the street, fine, meet him there, but I simply don't wish to have anything to do with him.

That is akin to a working girl on the street corner with some lowly guy hovering just behind her. How much business does she think she's going to get that way?

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If your not planning on doing something wrong, you have no need to fear the driver. Most drivers don't usually sit right outside your house with an LED sign saying "The guy in this house is paying for a whore!" They usually park around the corner.
But yes, to a point your right. In most cases if you mess with an escort, harm her, or rip her off, a driver will become involved, and odds are, you would rather it was the cops that showed up, not the driver. But, only if your looking for trouble. Drivers don't want to have to get involved, and drivers don't want to be seen sitting on the street. But a good driver will get involved, but also not be seen or heard from unless there's a problem.

 

[stormserver]

I agree. The driver is there to make sure that the lady gets in and out safely. They are not there to be a bully or a tag-along. It is not only convenient for the escort to have a driver, it is for her safety.

 

[necko]

lazy don't want but out to much effort

 

[Miss*Bijou]

lazy don't want but out to much effort

Uuuh... great point... I think.

 

[SilkyJohnson]

well if the SP and client have seen each other numerous times and both trust each other than y not outcall? oops i mean WHY?

 

[Violet]

I understand this was not your intention, but it can come across as a little bit rude & condescending when a client points out that working as an escort has risks. Yet guys say things like this (& far worse) all the time. How would you feel if you went to see an SP & the first thing she said was "How can you feel safe about having sex with an escort? Aren't you afraid of getting ripped off or getting an std or something?" I know that your post was not quite on the same level, but since you asked for girls' opinions, I thought I'd give mine. Yes we know there are risks to our job, as there are with many jobs, & in life in general. Both incalls & outcalls have their risks, all we can do is be smart & not think we're invincible, & try to minimize the risks as much as we can. And at least with an outcall you know the guys real name & address.

As to the guy who said he would never see a girl who got driven by a driver & didn't come alone, I would never see a guy who insisted I come alone! That would immediately send up a red flag, wondering why the guy wasn't ok with it. For that matter, could you please say why you wouldn't be comfortable with it? If you're worried about the driver coming to your door or something, the driver is not going to be seen or heard, as mentioned already, he is just there for the lady's convenience & safety.

Plus, for all the guys who wonder what ladies do to protect their safety on outcalls (I've been asked that question a lot), most SPs get the clients real name in full, verify it with 411, tell someone else where they are going to be, & have someone check in with them by phone to make sure everything's ok.

 

[trackstar]

could you please say why you wouldn't be comfortable with it? If you're worried about the driver coming to your door or something, the driver is not going to be seen or heard, as mentioned already, he is just there for the lady's convenience & safety.

I think one thing the guys are concerned about is the old cash and dash play. Also, although most drivers are in fact drivers, the odd time it's a pimp. Not many guys feel too comfortable about their sp's pimp hangin' around in front of their house.

 

[SeekSteadyRegSP]

well if the SP and client have seen each other numerous times and both trust each other than y not outcall? oops i mean WHY?

Hello !!!


... because it is LEGAL

(because it is the only legal way)

Why is that so hard to understand??

 

[SeekSteadyRegSP]

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If your not planning on doing something wrong, you have no need to fear the driver. Most drivers don't usually sit right outside your house with an LED sign saying "The guy in this house is paying for a whore!" They usually park around the corner.

Interesting example... as either she had a driver or she arrived on Edmonton Metro.


But any woman of reasonable intelligence can afford herself fool-proof security using the internet and phone lines. Until a "driver" can protect a working girl from STD's when she's with a client then the woman is merely wasting her time and her money when toting such undesirable characters.

Employing a driver, IF you can drive yourself, is about as stupid as trying to sell sex on the street corner to passers by while standing in front of an active crack house.

I mean, where exactly do you people hire these freaks?? Is there an upstanding employment agent who screens them closely and provides you background-check information? Or by chance are you hiring the marginal career criminals whom nobody else wants to hire?

As your theoretical potential client, I don't want to be at all vulnerable when such lowlifes are known to be in my immediate vicinity. If you cannot adhere to what is a very simple, normal wish, then somebody else will gladly add that relatively teensy bit of vulnerability to the big enchilada she is already expecting to offer.

 

[SeekSteadyRegSP]

As to the guy who said he would never see a girl who got driven by a driver & didn't come alone, I would never see a guy who insisted I come alone! That would immediately send up a red flag, wondering why the guy wasn't ok with it. For that matter, could you please say why you wouldn't be comfortable with it?

This is absurd, lady!!!

Your implications are along the lines of my seeing a squad of (18yo) high school cheerleaders on the street and one of them saying: "hey, I'll suck you off for $50, but only if my friends can all ride along too"... and me agreeing to accept such an offer!!

NO WAY!!!

Besides, I did say the following:

If you want to drop your driver at the supermarket down the street, fine, meet him there, but I simply don't wish to have anything to do with him.

And I did not "insist" on anything.

I just don't want anything to do with your lowly associates. Is this understood? Hell, why don't you bring your boyfriend, and your mom, and your little sister too???

In fact, I'll make you this deal: IF you bring your mother and have her sitting outside in the car with the neon sign then I'll invite you over.

I (probably) wanna spend time with you... and I'm guessing your mom is part of the reason why... (one way or another anyway - yikes!)... so she's cool (at least in this context).

 

[Violet]

I didn't say you insisted on anything, I said "IF a guy..." meaning anyone.

I'm confused, do you think drivers are going to come in to your house with the SP or something?? (Given your analogy). That is not normal, & usually he would park down the street.

Screening can only get you so far, the purpose of a driver is to be nearby in case something bad happens during the call, such as if the guy rapes her, gets violent, etc. (or if he refuses to pay she can just walk out & leave right away). Also if they call you at the end of the call & you don't answer (for a long enough period of time to be concerned) they will knock on the door to see if things are ok. These are the only times a real driver would ever come up to your house (unless something fishy is going on, such as they are a pimp or are ripping you off). Of course they cannot protect the girl from everything, but I think having someone know where you are & be nearby in case of an emergency is a really important safety step.

The reason girls are concerned when a guy does not want a driver to bring her there is because it makes us assume that he wants you to be there alone & not have anyone know you are there or be nearby, which doesn't look good.

 

[SeekSteadyRegSP]

I'm confused, do you think drivers are going to come in to your house with the SP or something?? (Given your analogy).

Uh, no, in my analogy the driver would be a high school cheerleader.

Screening can only get you so far, the purpose of a driver is to be nearby in case something bad happens during the call, such as if the guy rapes her, gets violent, etc. (or if he refuses to pay she can just walk out & leave right away). Also if they call you at the end of the call & you don't answer (for a long enough period of time to be concerned) they will knock on the door to see if things are ok. These are the only times a real driver would ever come up to your house (unless something fishy is going on...

redundant much??

having someone know where you are & be nearby in case of an emergency is a really important safety step.

By all means, tell your landlord, tell your babysitter, tell your mother, or book your appointments on the net and use the electronic fingerprints there.

Just don't bring any of your lowlife associates to a gig for which I am paying you, unless you have the propriety which allows that I get to bring a few people too.

The reason girls are concerned when a guy does not want a driver to bring her there is because it makes us assume that he wants you to be there alone

Hey, you are a little more perceptive than we thought!

... & not have anyone know you are there or be nearby

Uh, noooooooooo, who said anything about caring whether you told your mother, your babysitter, your landlord, or the person you shoot-up with upon arrival back home?

 

[FortunateOne]

Just don't bring any of your lowlife associates to a gig for which I am paying you, unless you have the propriety which allows that I get to bring a few people too.

Just curious, have you actually ever had an sp come to you on an outcall? I am assuming the driver situation is for residential outcalls, rather than hotel.

 

[Inamorato]

PS - If I knew in advance that someone would come to my neighborhood "with a driver", I simply would not book them.


I mean, if you're showing up in order to make yourself vulnerable, for cash, at least have enough common sense to seem vulnerable. If you want to drop your driver at the supermarket down the street, fine, meet him there, but I simply don't wish to have anything to do with him.

Your posts on this topic are completely ignorant.
I work as a part-time driver for a few girls, and I'm hardly a low-life. Driving gives me some extra income and flexible hours that I need while I pursue some other business endeavors.

If you have good intentions then what difference does it make if I drop a girl off, wait discreetly for her around the corner and pick her up after the call?
Anyone who is afraid of a driver being in their neighborhood is probably up to no good.

In over a year of driving I have only ever spoken to 2 clients. One was an older guy who wanted to come out and personally tip me because the girl I was driving had told him that she appreciates the feeling of security I provide, and the other was a piece of shit who refused to allow the SP to leave when she felt unsafe because he pulled out his crackpipe and became verbally abusive when she refused to smoke with him. I "discussed" this issue with him, and then left him alone to call the handyman about getting his door re-attached to the frame...and to change his underwear that he must have soiled when I "opened" the door. Interacting with clients is not in the job description, but making sure the SP leaves safely is.

Even girls who don't use a driver should indicate to their clients that they do. If a guy has a problem with that, then he's probably not someone they should be seeing.

I have heard some stories about drivers who were bad news, but some of us have earned a good rep, and the girls we work with are appreciative of the service we provide.

 

[chris2008]

I would agree...your comments are really ignorant SeekSteadyRegSP.

I use outcall SP's and I do live in a fairly "pretentious" neighborhood. I've had outcalls and my concern was the discreteness. More than anything, if you talk to people nicely, you can ask them to park abit further, don't rip down the road when you're arriving etc...it's amazing how far talking nicely goes.

Life is not fair dude, it's a fair comment to say you can find some lowlifes that are drivers and it's also completely true to say some guys who pay for sex also are seedy or ignorant such as yourself. Hence, it's better to err on the side of caution.

Your comment about not wanting their lowlife associates near you...are you saying that SP's are also lowlifes too since they "associate" with them? Therefore, since you also "associate" with SP's, you would be a lowlife too. You've now answered your own question.

Course they want protection from a lowlife like you. I would if I was a SP meeting you for the first time.

 

[Avery]

No reasonable client should have a problem with an SP having a driver who waits nearby. Most agencies and many indies employ drivers who double as security. It's probably more of a psychological comfort to the ladies than a real comfort anyway, since a violent client can do a lot of harm in a very short time.

However, most clients would be very uncomfortable with a driver coming to the door, and not just because of the risk of "cash and dash". In fact, many Montreal agencies advertise in the Journal de Montreal classifieds, "pas de chauffeur a la porte" (no driver at the door) for that very reason.