Anti Asian Racism in Vancouver

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I'm concerned about the trend of increased anti-asian racism in Vancouver and was interested to learn what others think about this and how this uptick can be reversed.
 

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Another media- driven non- issue. Most of the recorded incidents have been committed by other Asians, or mentally-disturbed street people. There always will be the odd ourtright racist, but they usually don't do much overtly.

In the US, the untold story is virtually every anti-Asian attack that has been backed with vdeo evidence, has been committed by black people, but that doesn't fit the white-supremacist agenda, so never gets mentioned.
 
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Another media- driven non- issue. Most of the recorded incidents have been committed by other Asians, or mentally-disturbed street people. There always will be the odd ourtright racist, but they usually don't do much overtly.
In the US, the untold story is virtually every anti-Asian attack that has been backed with vdeo evidence, has been committed by black people, but that doesn't fit the white-supremacist agenda, so never gets mentioned.
I agree, racism has always existed, people are just more blatant and emboldened now to act on it. Especially with violence. It doesn't matter who acts out against Asians, black or white, they're still racist acts.
Asian people will always be second tier citizens in North American society, with unspoken glass ceilings across the every facet of society. It's one thing to say "chink/gook/jap/slant eyes", it's another to say "we're going to pay you less". Never believe we exist in a system of meritocracy, just do what needs to be done to survive it.
 

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... Asian people will always be second tier citizens in North American society ...
I don't know that I agree with that. There is without doubt a history of anti-Asian racism in North America, and without doubt such racism still exists. Yet, even in my parochial little town I'm seeing many Asians fully mingling and participating in society, without having to give up their Asian cultural identities. As an old white guy in a profession, I find myself working with Asian professional people on a regular basis, not because I seek them out but because they're a big part of the professions.

On the other hand, in a long professional career I have never, ever, worked with a black person. Not because I've avoided them but because they just don't have a significant presence, in the professions and social circles that I encounter. One can speculate about many possible reasons for that, but I can't help but think that one of the reasons is that it's harder for a black person to break through societal prejudices.
 

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Racism is alive and well in Canada 🇨🇦. You'd be amazed how often I get called chug, wagon burner etc. Even at work, some gutless coward scribbled chug on my tool box. All demographics are racist,young, old,male,female, rich and poor.
Gosh, I must live a sheltered life. I read the terms "chug" and "wagon burner" and I can't even guess as to your racial identity. I understand lots of racial slurs, and have used some of them, but I have no clue what those ones mean.
 

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As a white male, I do not even know if I am allowed to comment on this. BTW chug wagon burner is native american, I think that is what we are calling them now, as I said, im white so I am probablly wrong
 

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derogatory terms for a North American indian
Well, it proves just how incredibly stupid the people who make those comments are.

Can anyone think of a LESS relevant insult towards an indigenous person?

I grew up in a mixed race area, but with whites being the minority. Racial insults were thrown around by everyone, but not taken very seriously.
 
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I've never heard of anti-Asian in my life until couple months ago and I'm Asian. Wasn't born here but came here as an immigrant. Sure I've experienced racism and descrimination before. Most notably from my last supervisor. Wouldn't say the guy is racist, just a huge xenophobe. He dislikes people from certain countries in Asia but not mine so we got along well at work. I've had those terms like chink, slanty, and many more thrown my way at work before from all races (white, black, even Asian) but never thought of them as anti-Asian, just good old construction shittalk. And of course I throw some of mine back. One of my good friends, a half white half black guy, dislike Chinese people but love me (I'm not Chinese).

Oh I know full well anti-Asian exists. There's racism everywhere. I guess it just never bothers me and I don't get my panties in a twist over that. Just grow a thicker skin.
 

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I don't know that I agree with that. There is without doubt a history of anti-Asian racism in North America, and without doubt such racism still exists. Yet, even in my parochial little town I'm seeing many Asians fully mingling and participating in society, without having to give up their Asian cultural identities. As an old white guy in a profession, I find myself working with Asian professional people on a regular basis, not because I seek them out but because they're a big part of the professions.

On the other hand, in a long professional career I have never, ever, worked with a black person. Not because I've avoided them but because they just don't have a significant presence, in the professions and social circles that I encounter. One can speculate about many possible reasons for that, but I can't help but think that one of the reasons is that it's harder for a black person to break through societal prejudices.
Outside of Toronto and Montreal, there are very few blacks especially Vancouver.
 

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Another media- driven non- issue. Most of the recorded incidents have been committed by other Asians, or mentally-disturbed street people. There always will be the odd ourtright racist, but they usually don't do much overtly.

In the US, the untold story is virtually every anti-Asian attack that has been backed with vdeo evidence, has been committed by black people, but that doesn't fit the white-supremacist agenda, so never gets mentioned.
So let me get this straight .... if you're threatened by a mentally-disturbed person because you're Asian, it doesn't really count?

Kind of like if you're killed by a mentally-disturbed gunman, you're not really dead.

Got it.
 
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I've never heard of anti-Asian in my life until couple months ago and I'm Asian. Wasn't born here but came here as an immigrant. Sure I've experienced racism and descrimination before. Most notably from my last supervisor. Wouldn't say the guy is racist, just a huge xenophobe. He dislikes people from certain countries in Asia but not mine so we got along well at work. I've had those terms like chink, slanty, and many more thrown my way at work before from all races (white, black, even Asian) but never thought of them as anti-Asian, just good old construction shittalk. And of course I throw some of mine back. One of my good friends, a half white half black guy, dislike Chinese people but love me (I'm not Chinese).

Oh I know full well anti-Asian exists. There's racism everywhere. I guess it just never bothers me and I don't get my panties in a twist over that. Just grow a thicker skin.
I *LOVE* this. I wish we could all be a little more like you. :)
 

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I'm not Asian but bc of my accent I was told to go back where I came from.
Problem is in my old country there's too many skin heads , racism is everywhere.
This pandemic really brings out the worst from people. :(
I was just going to say the exact same thing. Actually, this never happened to me in Toronto, but many times in Vancouver. I think Vancouver is very elitist and snobbish. Seems like inferiority complex of California wanna be type. Very hard to make friends here. The superficiality manifests itself here with the mentioned racism and attitudes toward a different accent. I've been told to go back where I came from as well. When I express my opinions about current local affairs, I've been told to shut up and get the fuck out of here. I constantly experience locals born here easily start conversations with other locals born in Canada but they seem to have no patience for me. Sort of like, they assume we don't have much in common. I've been even told a few times that me, as an immigrant, will always be a second class citizen in their view, and they will never think of me as a true Canadian. I'm white by the way, and those whom I'm talking about were also white. So, discrimination, in many forms, is very much alive here and doing well.
 

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Outside of Toronto and Montreal, there are very few blacks especially Vancouver.
I never mentioned Vancouver, Toronto or Montreal. There's a whole world outside of Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal, and indeed, believe it or not, outside of Canada. Some of us have even been to that world outside of Canada, and worked for a living there, among the various peoples of that world.

Back to Vancouver though - there was a black neighbourhood in Vancouver, but in the mid-twentieth century the city government arranged for it to disappear. They probably would have liked to have gotten rid of Chinatown too, but I guess it was too well-established.
 

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I never mentioned Vancouver, Toronto or Montreal. There's a whole world outside of Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal, and indeed, believe it or not, outside of Canada. Some of us have even been to that world outside of Canada, and worked for a living there, among the various peoples of that world.

Back to Vancouver though - there was a black neighbourhood in Vancouver, but in the mid-twentieth century the city government arranged for it to disappear. They probably would have liked to have gotten rid of Chinatown too, but I guess it was too well-established.
Look at the subject line, we're not talking about outside Vancouver.
 

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Another media- driven non- issue. Most of the recorded incidents have been committed by other Asians, or mentally-disturbed street people. There always will be the odd ourtright racist, but they usually don't do much overtly.

In the US, the untold story is virtually every anti-Asian attack that has been backed with vdeo evidence, has been committed by black people, but that doesn't fit the white-supremacist agenda, so never gets mentioned.
If its untold how do you know about it? Where is this video evidence?
 
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