And don't forget his two sisters live in the USA and are card carrying Republicans who probably support Trump without a concern for ethics.
2019 Election thread
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Well to be fair they do have a history of corruption. And if you look at the election financing scandal you might understand why Justin wanted to give them a pass.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/snc-lavalin-corruption-fraud-bribery-libya-muhc-1.5010865
Apparently not many employees would have been affected in any event because the vast majority were already involved in multi year projects in Canada.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/snc-lavalin-scandal-economics-jobs-risk-1.5047248
And thats from the CBC.
Looks like voters may be coming to their senses. Liberals are in front in latest poll 
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/
JD
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/
JD
Losing their senses is more like it....oh, nothing to see here..... its a CBC poll.Looks like voters may be coming to their senses. Liberals are in front in latest poll
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/
JD
Indeed, a political cliché: only votes for Libs. Massive numbers of SNC Lavalin jobs were lost behind the scenes over wrangling, reducing SNC Lavalin to a shadow of its former self. What jobs are left at SNC Lavalin are threatened with anymore judicial harassment in Canada if SNC Lavalin moves to the States.
While I'm on the topic of law versus ethics, I want to mention the Trans Mountain Pipeline purchase. The provisions of the trade treaty agreed to by Brian Mulroney included a secret tribunal that provided compensation for foreign companies that experience loss of revenue as a result of environmental protest in Canada. The settlements of the tribunal are secret. News of a settlement being reached is secret or of having taken place is also secret. The settlement sum cannot appear on the balance sheet or books of the paying government. A settlement payment has to be rolled into some other item so that no record appears anywhere in government of having made compensation over environmental protest including that of junior levels of government, provincial, territorial and municipal enacting local laws that interfere with the revenue stream of a foreign corporation or company.
So, I'm not surprised and you shouldn't be surprised either that all the protest that was going on at Burnaby Mountain in past years must have delayed the revenue stream of the private pipeline owner to the point that it was cheaper for Canada to buy the existing pipeline rather than pay a compensation.
Politics is about showing leadership. Some people have brought up that Canada only produces 1.6% of world CO2 emissions? Only in countries like Iceland where they depend on expensive oil, did they go out and find an alternative one in the volcanic hot springs. In places where oil is cheap, change is impossible without a political mandate.
So at 1.6% Canada should be leaders for the rest of the Western world and get off the dependence on oil and export that leadership to the rest of the world. Was it Pearson or St Laurent who said Canada's century is the 21st century.
The thing is we are so blinded by our dependence on cheap oil and the conveniences it brings. Off grid producers are not tied to the infrastructure, and hence can not be controlled by outlying factors.. Are they truely free of influence of the big corporations?
I like the Green response to climate change, but abhor their stand on robotics. As for NDP, any government they formed usually fucked that province up.... So I don't think that they would do a good job of running the government.
As for Jody Wilson-Raybould; well the SNC Lavlin affair made her a political pariah. How can another party trust her with the internal workings of a party now, parties can't afford her ethics; as politics changes so does your stance....
Mistakes... wow they happen and you learn from them. Look at Trudeau when he was in Parliment (not as PM) and now as PM, things have changed.
So at 1.6% Canada should be leaders for the rest of the Western world and get off the dependence on oil and export that leadership to the rest of the world. Was it Pearson or St Laurent who said Canada's century is the 21st century.
The thing is we are so blinded by our dependence on cheap oil and the conveniences it brings. Off grid producers are not tied to the infrastructure, and hence can not be controlled by outlying factors.. Are they truely free of influence of the big corporations?
I like the Green response to climate change, but abhor their stand on robotics. As for NDP, any government they formed usually fucked that province up.... So I don't think that they would do a good job of running the government.
As for Jody Wilson-Raybould; well the SNC Lavlin affair made her a political pariah. How can another party trust her with the internal workings of a party now, parties can't afford her ethics; as politics changes so does your stance....
Mistakes... wow they happen and you learn from them. Look at Trudeau when he was in Parliment (not as PM) and now as PM, things have changed.
Lol. Secret tribunals agreed to by the Mulroney government. You do know that the Liberal Party of Canada has been taken over by a space alien in the form of Gerald Butts don’t you?
Very good post! I especially agree about your point on how Jody WR committed political suicide when she failed to be a team player. You were correct when you stated no other political party will trust her now.
JD
lol, when Trudeau was a MP, he was never there, just like he is as PM, which he tried to make even less, remember he wanted to give them Fridays off, like they sit that often anyway
when he was suppose to be there as an MP, he was out on his speaking tour, double dipping, stealing money from moronic public institutions, amongst others dumb enough to pay to listen to him
after-all, a politician should charge extra to speak to the public, while being employed by the Gov't, right?
he hasn't changed, he never will
it's all about him
sure he did :flypig:
he never stopped
exactly, his hand is so far up Trudeau's ass, it's hard to tell which is which :heh:
it's been the running joke, that Butts is the PM, he's the brains, Trudeau is just the cardboard cutout they present to the public
he doesn't actually do anything, he's a big picture/dreamer, why they have to give him talking points to repeat Ad nauseam
he can't think on his feet, um, um, um
Butts isn't working for Trudeau anymore, lol
yeah right, a canoe in everyone's stocking this year!
Here, you can read about your space alians in this Canadian government document:
http://publications.gc.ca/Collection-R/LoPBdP/inbrief/prb0254-e.htm
Some excerpts:
One of the key worries within the environmental non-governmental organization (NGO) community is the perception that international agreements governing trade may conflict with, and may subsequently trump, international agreements governing the environment. A related problem is seen in the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), Chapter 11, where trade law is seen to trump not just international environmental agreements, but also a country’s domestic ability to implement regulations, particularly in the areas of environment and health.
The process has been criticized for its lack of legitimacy, accountability and transparency. It allows only a very limited form of review; there is no opportunity for appeal; and there is little legal precedent for these cases.
Chapter 11 of NAFTA was designed to protect the interests of foreign investors,(2) with the continuing goal of liberalizing international investment. This chapter establishes a mechanism for the settlement of investment disputes that attempts to achieve equal treatment of investors in accordance with the principles of international reciprocity and due process before an impartial tribunal.
A bit more about SNC Lavalin:
SNC Lavalin had a wide international footprint that provided real income for Canada that worked to balance trade deficits in Canada. Valuable employees, valuable to Canada who have to go to either smaller corporations in Canada that don't have the international brand and connections that SNC Lavalin had, or leave Canada altogether. Jobs that could actually count for something in Canada, not the retailers and wholesalers here now that desperately have to sell foreign products to skim enough off narrow margins to survive and drive inordinate distances to work because rent and mortgages are too expensive.
Canada has NOTHING going on of substance other than OUT-OF-CONTROL IMMIGRATION.
IT’S BUILDING A MILLION CONDOS yet makes nothing that goes into them. Even the rebar comes from China.
~anonymous Internet poster, October 6th, 2019
IT’S BUILDING A MILLION CONDOS yet makes nothing that goes into them. Even the rebar comes from China.
~anonymous Internet poster, October 6th, 2019
Did you even look at the poll ??? If you had, you would have seen that it is not a CBC poll. It is a weighted poll from very diverse pollsters, including the Globe & Mail and Angus Reid.
JD
Looks like I am a victim of fake news. No Globe and Mail article is forthcoming. Warren Kinsella's post:
MUSINGS
SIGH
WARREN — 10.06.2019 07:07 PM
No Globe story coming, notwithstanding the grilling their reporter gave Trudeau on Friday afternoon about his past.
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