A call from my clients' wife ...today ...my heart hurts

[jdtipper]

So everything in his life ws bought and paid for by my money. I am sure many wives both do and don't contribute financially to the household with many clients, but how many clients can say their wives are the 100% breadwinner....waking up to go to work every day on their own?

Ms KC, I did not mean for you to air your personal situation, as it is none of my business. I just found it odd that you wilfully accept donations from married men who should be supporting their family, maybe even using some of their SO paycheck to see you. Yet get angry about your ex wilfully spending your "family" money, or maybe you have him an allowance every week and he used that...I'm not sure.

Since you have become quite the business savvy woman, might I make a suggestion.... maybe your next move should be author. You can write and distribute a book on the "codes" and ethics of being an SP.
Might be a good seller

 

[Very Veronica]

at the risk of beating a dead horse/bunny

Jessica if i was your employer, you'd be fired. Your first mistake could be forgiven but refusing to listen to your more experienced colleagues (and their patient comments) is unacceptable. There may not be an employee handbook for this job but there is an unofficial code of conduct and you're not listening. Discretion is rule #1 and if you can't manage client/provider confidentiality, this work is not for you. For all it's worth i suggest you drop this subject immediately, you're digging yourself a psycho-crater of a bunny hole.

Speech is silver; silence is golden.

 

[sparky444]

theres

Try to think about that when you are posting JD, do you really want people seeing how stupid and immature you are?

The world is full of right and wrongs with rules that are not meant to be broken, be realistic and quit being such an idiot.
I mean seriously, you're acting like a 2 year old who wants his way.

There's the kettle calling the pot black.

I searched this morning for other quotes from you hb4. The one where you said you would pay Jessica then a few posts later say thanks for the freebie, have a nice life. I seen those posts and thought wow, this guy real has a hate on for Jessica. After she was nice enough to give you a free BDay session. I've never heard of that. But I'm still fairly new and all that. I think if some of other sp's seen that post they would see what kind of person you really are and would refuse to see you! But the mods pulled it. Lucky you

Or the part where you said you went and seen the other sp again just to spite her. That makes me wonder how you seen the other sp twice with no money. So if I use my powers of deduction here......

Your online persona is shing pretty brightly now hb4

 

[badbadboy]

What ever happened to "don't know, don't tell"?

VV got it right and I would not be partaking in this hobby if I couldn't be confident about my indiscretions being exposed.

 

[katoe]

Ms KC, I did not mean for you to air your personal situation, as it is none of my business. I just found it odd that you wilfully accept donations from married men who should be supporting their family, maybe even using some of their SO paycheck to see you. Yet get angry about your ex wilfully spending your "family" money, or maybe you have him an allowance every week and he used that...I'm not sure.

Since you have become quite the business savvy woman, might I make a suggestion.... maybe your next move should be author. You can write and distribute a book on the "codes" and ethics of being an SP.
Might be a good seller

Gonna have to agree with Kendra on this point. She was upfront and honest and he was a lying coward. Obviously he must have had some awesome redeeming qualities for Kendra to marry him. If he is not kicking himself for it now, he will be.

Your book idea sounds like sarcasm, but that seems uncharacteristic of you.

More questions for the topic at hand:
1) Did JPR break the discretionary rule or did she just push someone out of the ditch?
2) Do you (all the posters to this thread) claim to be non-judgemental? Check your responses ;-)

 

[kickstart]

The dude involved should have not payed for GFE. I am sure most on here know girlfriends talk........ When you pay for GFE, JPR gave total GFE.


I have been waiting to give a review before i post (most people prob say i still should have waited lol fuk ya then) but this is serious. I do not know Jessica or anyone involved, and i also cant judge anyone involved or the situation as i have never been with an SP here. I have been sentenced to life in marriage (smiles) and basically been given one day pass to have an experience that i will remember when im talking with the boys in the old folks home.

When i finally decide who i would have the best time with and who i will fantasize with forever, it will NOT be with JPR. This probably will not matter to anyone involved as i will only be a one off. I will not be repeating with anyone so there is no reoccuring sessions.
Trust is a huge issue.

If I was in his shoes in having a SO and SP's, i know and would probably pray that if my SO ever contacted the SP, the SP must just keep quiet. period.

But in saying that, I also believe and expect people to talk. Hell my bank even contacted my wife and gave all details on a personal account i had without her name on the account. (i moved banks). hmmm if your a lawyer and can get money from the bank pls contact me lol. breech of trust thing.

Now, although there is not a written confidentiality agreement in place between a client and SP, I would be worried that a client could sue a SP if that SP breeched an "implyed agreement". I dont know if that is possible or not but people sue for the strangest things lately. Also as the SP is concered, although she may not lie (cool) that she can also be brought into divorce court would really bother me.

About the guy wanting to get caught... get a grip, by saying he wanted to because he left numbers around is foolish. he was careless / stupid yes. wanting to get caught??? well even though i dont know him, i would put money on that he never wanted to get caught.

abit off topic... VJ im sorry i can never give u a reference as i have never been with anyone other then my wife since i was married (17 yrs) and although im curious of the reference she would give you reguarding me, i dont think i will ever ask her to do that. smiles.

Now JPR, you may not believe that you were wrong and i cant judge. But i wonder if you would think different if they get divorced and you are brought into court as evidence.?

 

[uncleg]

Try to think about that when you are posting JD, do you really want people seeing how stupid and immature you are?

The world is full of right and wrongs with rules that are not meant to be broken, be realistic and quit being such an idiot.
I mean seriously, you're acting like a 2 year old who wants his way.

Who are you to tell me what to do and how to act? And if people perceive me that way, fine. I don't give a shit. I've gone to long worrying about what others think of me.

When I met you at MERL, I perceived you to be a certain way...but in light of how you have been in this thread, boy has that sure changed. That is what I meant by my other comment you quoted.

If you wish to carry on trying to belittle me, then let's leave the forum and continue in PMs. I'm all for learning from anyone who wishes to teach.

What would "eddie" say about this tiff ? Does the newly formed Western Chapter of MERL have to come to E-town and put you over their knees. You two can duel over who gets MF's knees, mind "eddie" will probably want a bit of that action, so you guys can have a threesome. I haven't met either of you, but "eddie" did say you were both cool guys and while you may have different opinions on the issue of JPR, don't lose your cool over it. In the end is it worth it, well her end might be worth it, butt there are others.

 

[apple juice]

I don't know why the Mods haven't locked up this thread yet, it has gotten pretty sad pretty quickly.

#1 rule of the game - you know nothing...it's that simple...end of story.

 

[lenny]

I completely agree with Veronica. The key to this whole game is plausible deniability. To quote Shaggy "It wasn't me" . If you get a call and deny ever seeing, talking or fucking the guy he has at least a chance to stick handle his way out of trouble. You cut that poor bastard off at the knees. He paid to get laid not for you to act as a best friend to his SO.

So IOW you're saying the "key to this whole game" of being an SP is to be a liar.

Apparently, from reading other posts here, not only is honesty ruled out, but also compassion.

Jessica, either change your heart, or quit being an SP, is the message coming from the opposition in this thread.

 

[HB40]

There's the kettle calling the pot black.

I searched this morning for other quotes from you hb4. The one where you said you would pay Jessica then a few posts later say thanks for the freebie, have a nice life. I seen those posts and thought wow, this guy real has a hate on for Jessica. After she was nice enough to give you a free BDay session. I've never heard of that. But I'm still fairly new and all that. I think if some of other sp's seen that post they would see what kind of person you really are and would refuse to see you! But the mods pulled it. Lucky you

Or the part where you said you went and seen the other sp again just to spite her. That makes me wonder how you seen the other sp twice with no money. So if I use my powers of deduction here......

Your online persona is shing pretty brightly now hb4

Yes, well that is where your powers of deduction fail to see the omissions to her story.

I did meet her three times, and yes I tried to be tactful suggesting I would one day stay for a session. She contacted me trying to persuade me to come for a session, I used the excuse that I had no money to avoid telling her no. Then she offered the freebie, I expressed my hesitance in accepting but she persisted. I agreed and inquired about some other recompense to which she said a review would suffice. We had the session, it was ok, I told her I would repeat to also offer a compromise of continued patronage for her generosity. Then I wrote the review.

Not long after, as I continued with my usual activities of seeing and reviewing girls I get a PM from her with a snarky tone telling me one of the girls I saw is suspect and my priorities lie with her and returning to see her. Well I admit I'm not the most gentlemanly sort and didn't take kindly to some escort telling me who I can and can't fuck, excuse me....my wife doesn't even tell me who I can fuck. I visited the same girl and reviewed her again so that Jessica could see I won't be intimidated. After a few nasty PM's from both of us I contacted the mods, explained the situation and had the review removed. I was reprimanded and reminded why those types of activities are not condoned. Since the review was removed I told her I would pay her for the session and we could go on with our lives.

Unfortunately as events transpired here we became increasingly attacking to each other and it became clear neither of us wanted to ever see each other again, my attitude changed and I feel with her actions towards me that we are all square and I don't want to pay her now, as I was never obligated to anyway.

My online persona always shines brightly, I have nothing to hide and conduct myself honestly. I make plenty of mistakes and do say stupid things all the time, I see very many SP's and often get into trouble by making promises I can't keep or loyalties I don't always honour. But I have always tried to be the best client I could and treat the ladies with the respect and consideration they deserve.

 

[apple juice]

Apparently, from reading other posts here, not only is honesty ruled out, but also compassion.

Call me insensitive if you will but it's not our place to tell clients' wives anything. That's for them to work out themselves, sorry.

 

[lenny]

What ever happened to "don't know, don't tell"?

VV got it right and I would not be partaking in this hobby if I couldn't be confident about my indiscretions being exposed.

Who told? And what did they tell? Anything that wasn't already known?
If you have a tape of the conversation, i'd like to hear it.

If you are as careless as the client in this discussion, you can count on being busted,
and should probably quit right now. Are you? He has no one to blame but himself.

 

[lenny]

Call me insensitive if you will but it's not our place to tell clients' wives anything. That's for them to work out themselves, sorry.

In a case where the guy is already busted, and his wife phones the SP, i can't see what harm
there would be in telling her many things, such as the weather, what time it is, how long she's
been in business, etc. So, sorry, i'll have to disagree with you.

As for calling you insensitive, i won't, but feel free to do so yourself, if you like. I prefer to
leave ad hominen attacks out of discussions.

 

[edmontonsubbie]

What would "eddie" say about this tiff ? Does the newly formed Western Chapter of MERL have to come to E-town and put you over their knees. You two can duel over who gets MF's knees, mind "eddie" will probably want a bit of that action, so you guys can have a threesome. I haven't met either of you, but "eddie" did say you were both cool guys and while you may have different opinions on the issue of JPR, don't lose your cool over it. In the end is it worth it, well her end might be worth it, butt there are others.

Helloooooooooooooo UncleG (said in a "tigger" like call). How's the weather?

As for this thread, wow, what a long slow trainwreck this has become. It is painful to watch but, much like that trainwreck, watch it we will.

I haven't a clue what actually happened and only three people do. Jessica, the client, and the client's wife. In my darker moments, I think....I may well have attended the last meeting of Merl. I doubt that collection of souls could be brought under the same roof again without the potential for fisticuffs. And, really, who wants that? This is hardly the UFC and nothing brings cops faster than a barroom brawl. I can't imagine not continuing my friendship with any of the members though....they are some decent people and I'm glad to know them.

In my happier moments, I think, this is just a fun forum and a great place to meet like minded souls. It remains that way for me. I wish each and all some peace for their day. Go for a walk, run, or peddly bike ride....I hear winter is coming.

Can't wait to sip a few with the Western Merl Crew!

cheers

eddiesometimesitsgreattobeinthemiddleoffuckingnowhere

 

[badbadboy]

Who told? And what did they tell? Anything that wasn't already known?
If you have a tape of the conversation, i'd like to hear it.

If you are as careless as the client in this discussion, you can count on being busted,
and should probably quit right now. Are you? He has no one to blame but himself.

Bottom line

SP should neither confirm nor deny. Simple right?

 

[HB40]

I doubt that collection of souls could be brought under the same roof again without the potential for fisticuffs.

No worries Eddie, I'm pretty sure JD is mature enough to handle emotional conversations without resorting to violence, and me, well, I can run faster scared than he can mad.

 

[edmontonsubbie]

No worries Eddie, I'm pretty sure JD is mature enough to handle emotional conversations without resorting to violence, and me, well, I can run faster scared than he can mad.

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! Good....cause I love ya both. But, that night with Electra (her name was Pam) does make you my ATF Merlito. I see Jim is wisely silent in all of this....he must be out looking at new walkers?

 

[HB40]

Well it never occur that somebody else is lying to save the face?
I wasn't the lady he mentionned but i can attest that i have seen around his birthday..Me and other ladies and he has paid my donation...He never has brought up to me free session neither than write a review in exchange
He has seen many ladies in last few months including me and all can attest that they got paid
Make your own conclusion

Thank you VJ, very nice of you to say.

 

[lenny]

Bottom line

SP should neither confirm nor deny. Simple right?

Confirm or deny what? That she's an SP? If the caller is looking at her website, what would be the point in denying the obvious? Is there something Jessica said that bothers you?

 

[uncleg]

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! Good....cause I love ya both. But, that night with Electra (her name was Pam) does make you my ATF Merlito. I see Jim is wisely silent in all of this....he must be out looking at new walkers?

Out of the wilderness, good. You got to keep an eye on those critters of yours............ Jim is probably still locked in his trunk, any wisedom he may have displayed in regards to this wreck would probably have been over ridden by senility.